In the spring of 2023, an event in Kenya made news around the world - a former televangelist was charged in the deaths of hundreds of adults and children. He allegedly convinced them to starve to death in a forest, in order to meet Jesus before the End of Times. Today on WINGS, you'll hear Pastor Margaret Machuki, from the Evangelical Alliance of Kenya, on how she sees the difference between a religion and a cult. Pastor Margaret Machuki, Pastor Margaret Machuki is the Kenya Representative for Re-Forma Global. Their website states "the biggest crisis facing the evangelical, global church today is the fact that most pastors, missionaries, and Christian leaders are undertrained or not trained at all." They say more than 90 percent of pastors - about 2 million worldwide - have no formal theological education, that thousands of new churches are created every year, and as one spokesman bluntly put it, "Anybody can do anything." Re-Forma offers training and assessments in multiple languages and countries. While most of her prepared interview answers were directed at trying to stop obviously harmful practices, Pastor Margaret Machuki showed her evangelical allegiance in defining the term "cult." Evangelicalism is an interdenominational movement that operates within and across most sects of Protestant Christianity. They are keen on converting people to be "born again" - that is, to have a transcendent experience of conversion and accept the authority of the Bible as God's revelation. Pastor Margaret Machuki: WINGS thanks our Kenya reporter Diana Wanyonyi for this interview. Thanks also to your local community radio stations, Suzette Cullen, and Genevieve Vaughan, whose recent events can be found on the website maternalgifteconomymovement.org - that's all one word: maternal gift economy movement dot org. The WINGS sound logo is from Libana's album A Circle is Cast. I'm WINGS series producer Frieda Werden. This is the women's international news gathering service.