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The Transition Town movement spread from Totnes England to more than 50 countries all over the world. Rob Hopkins co-founded that movement. He is its most public face. So why did Rob move on to create an imaginary life? We talk about Rob's book "What If?" Plus California scientist Patrick Brown: will climate damage slow down our greenhouse gas emissions?
Interviews and music by Alex Smith of Radio Ecoshock
In the Affiliates version there is a break and re-intro at 30:00 for stations needing to insert station ID or announcements.