interview with Phyllis Bennis, Fellow at Institute for Policy Studies, author of 9 December 2004 article "U.S. Right-wing Ratchets up Attacks on the United Nations..." : http://www.ips-dc.org/comment/Bennis/tp26offscan.htm
See also "http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=10675" for 18 December 2004 interview with Prof. Joy Gordon, author of articles on the subject in _The Nation_ and _Harper's_ magazines.